Hello, and welcome to another episode of the fixing separation anxiety
podcast. In this episode,
we're looking at what it really means to get a dog
over separation anxiety?
How long that might take and what recovery involves?
Welcome to the fixing separation anxiety podcast,
where it's all about healing your dog,
regaining your freedom,
and getting your life back on track.
And now here's your host,
Julie Naismith.
I've been away from podcasting for a couple of weeks.
Not because I've been on vacation.
I do try to podcast even when I'm on vacation,
but because I've been busy with the group of owners who've
just joined my separation anxiety hero's club.
The hero's club,
and I call it heroes club because to me,
everybody who commits to tackling separation anxiety is a hero and
as are their dogs.
But the heroes club is a place where we work on
training together.
As you might have experienced,
separation anxiety training is super hard.
There's nothing intrinsically rewarding about it.
It's not fun.
It takes time to get results.
You have to do a bit of setup and organizing to
get on with it.
And frankly,
it can just be plain boring.
I can't wait to get on with separation anxiety training today
said nobody ever.
And whenever we face a challenge like that,
and you can think about maybe weight loss or couch to
5k running challenges.
Research shows that we achieve much,
much more when we work in a community,
hence why we go to weight loss clubs and why we
joined couch to 5k running groups.
And that community support and setting that's exactly what happens inside
my separation anxiety heroes club.
You know,
there's a buzz of activity every day.
People share their successes.
People share the failures and we all help one another to
stay on track with training.
At the heart of the heroes club is something that I
call a progress tracker or separation anxiety progress tracker.
As the name suggests,
this is what I encourage members to use to work out
how they are doing with training.
You can actually find a link to the tracker in the
show notes if you want to have a look.
If you're working on separation anxiety training right now,
if it's something you've done or something you're thinking about doing,
you will know that a really big focus of ours when
we're training as owners is the amount of time that we
spend on the other side of the door.
It feels like it's all about that,
doesn't it?
How long can I go out for,
is it 10 seconds?
Is it five minutes?
Can I do 20 minutes?
We're really focused on what's going on on the other side
of the door and that's fine and it's totally understandable.
It's human nature.
We really want to know.
We want to be able to leave our dogs for X
hours. That's why we're doing the training.
We want to be able to leave our dog for X
hours, whatever that is for you,
so that we can get back to normal life.
That's why we're doing the training.
However, here's the thing.
The focus on duration is laser focused just on duration can
cause a few problems.
And the three main ones that I see are as follows.
Let me explain what I see as the problems.
First of all,
we get tempted to push our dogs too far and too
fast. And if you're working on separation anxiety training,
you will know that we go at the dogs pace.
We only go,
we only progress as long as our dog can handle the
progression. We never push our dogs too far,
too fast.
Otherwise, we risk not making any progress at all.
But the focus on time can make us a little bit
greedy and make us push quicker than we should.
Why? Well,
because we see progress.
We measure progress as an increasing duration.
And so if we don't increase duration from one exercise,
exercise to the next,
then we're immediately thinking it's failure.
We're immediately thinking,
Oh, it's not working or I'm never going to get there.
Or even if we don't think it's a failure not to
push duration,
we certainly start to have thoughts creep in that it might
be stalled progress.
Our Doug's going to be really slow,
our dog's not going to get where we want my dog
to be.
So we really get greedy about pushing duration if that's our
focus. Number two,
we get caught up in time comparison.
It's too easy,
just way too easy to compare our dog's duration to others.
And in this very connected world,
of course,
in this age of social media,
we all know this.
There are so many forums,
so many ways that we can compare ourselves to others.
And you know how that makes you feel.
Comparison rarely does anything other than make us feel flat or
inadequate. There's a famous saying,
isn't there?
That comparison is the killer of joy.
And I see this over and over again with separation anxiety
training, instead of celebrating our own successes.
We are pleased to see when others are making progress,
but there's a little part of us as well that goes,
I wish that was my dog.
And I say to my owners over and over again,
do not ever compare your start to somebody else's middle or
just somebody else's end.
It's so important to just focus on running your own race.
And I think this obsession with duration makes the temptation to
compare even harder to resist.
Because when we're online,
we're in an odd dog group and we see that somebody's
separation anxiety dog is not doing 20 minutes.
You know,
off first reaction is I hope our first reaction is all
good for them,
but then don't,
we feel a little bit,
a little bit flat and disappointed because our dog is only
doing five.
But remember just like you don't know what's really going on
in a glamorous Instagram photo,
you don't know what's going on outside of that photo.
We don't always know what's going on with that dog.
Maybe the 20 minutes was a one off.
Maybe the dog was actually quite stressed during the 20 minutes,
but the owner isn't aware of what stress looks like in
a dog and is pushing the dog.
Maybe the dog hasn't had enough foundational departure training,
which is what I get all my owners to focus on.
I want everyone to do lots of work,
which is not about duration,
but it's getting the dog to be comfortable with you going
out of the door without getting upset.
So I call it Doughty sensitization,
and we work that over and over again.
And we work it with dogs who are achieving really quite
chunky durations.
But maybe that dog you see online who've got the 20
minutes, maybe there's no steady solid foundation.
And if you don't have the solid foundation,
there's a really good chance your training gets stuck.
Maybe that dog will get stuck at 20 minutes.
So the third thing that obsessing about duration does is it
makes us forget what progress really is.
What separation anxiety training progress really is.
It is not about our stopwatch.
Our goal with separation anxiety training is about getting back to
normal life,
Isn't it?
It's about getting our life back on track.
Yes, we absolutely want our dogs to stop being uncomfortable and
anxious and panicking.
But if you're managing absences,
more than likely your dog isn't feeling like that.
And the further in the past your dog's experience of being
left for scary absences becomes the more comfortable your dog is
generally. He's not thinking that you're about to go out the
door. Don't about keep his eye on you.
He's got used to have a several weeks,
months, you not leaving him for longer than he can cope.
So he starts to chill out.
So when we're managing absences,
you know,
dogs getting more comfortable.
Yeah, that is important.
But the biggest thing is probably we just want to get
our life back on track,
Do the normal things that everybody can do without having to
do plan for three weeks to go out and get painted
milk. And that means that we need our dogs,
not only to be able to handle longer durations,
but they need to be consistent.
So let's say your dog can do four hours right now.
I know,
I know separation anxiety goals,
you dream of that.
But when you get to that stage,
whether it's full minutes,
40 minutes or four hours,
I always get people to look at how predictable is that
duration? How much money would you bet on your dog being
able to do that four hours or that 40 minutes every
single time?
Is that a $10 bet,
a hundred dollars,
$500 bet?
If the dog's four hours is more of a one-off duration,
it's maybe it's a personal best.
If that's the case,
then it doesn't really matter so much about the four hours
because you can't go leave your dog to go to work
if you think that four hours is a sketchy four hours.
You're going to be on edge,
you're going to be watching your camera.
You're going to be ready to dash back or worst case
scenario, your dog does have a freak out and you are
not there.
So reliability,
consistency, predictability are huge.
That's why I get my owners to focus on more than
just duration.
Yes, of course.
We always talk about duration,
but I try to change the mindset away from just the
time on the stopwatch to the predictability and the consistency that
comes with solid training.
It's critical to get consistency.
And if you've pulled up the progress tracker,
that's linked in the show notes,
you will see that theme running through all of the stages
in the progress chart.
And just to quickly run through the progress tracker for you,
I've got seven stages.
Stage one is where nearly all of us start with separation
anxiety training.
And stage one is where you have a dog who more
than likely won't even let you get out of the door.
This is a dog who freaks as soon as you think
about going out and lots of you start there.
Maybe you've got a dog who,
yeah, it's kind of okay with you stepping outside for a
few seconds,
but it's not totally comfortable with that.
So stage one,
stage two,
these are dogs who are really,
really sensitive to leaving even just the thought of leaving.
And then on the other end of the tracker,
we've got stage seven,
ah, this is the one we all dream about.
This is a dog who allows you to live your life
again. This is what I call the freedom stage.
When you get to stage seven,
you have a dog who can pretty much be left for
as long as you need with the almost certainty that he's
going to be.
Okay. So you,
you know how long you need to go out for.
And you know,
he can nail that.
There's a real strong consistency and reliability part to stage seven.
Back to what I was saying about his four hours a
one-off or is it something that your dog can do over
and over again?
Is it that $500 bet?
Now, interestingly,
well, most of us,
most of my owners start off looking up at stage seven,
shooting for stage seven.
For lots of owners,
I see that stage six will actually do.
Now, if you're not looking at the progress tracker,
let me just describe stage six and stage six,
you probably not leaving your dog all day.
We're not talking about four hour durations,
but you do have a dog who's consistent enough that you
can do things like confidently meet your friends for dinner without
having your phone propped up against your against the candle.
But you might be taking sneaky peeks at the phone throughout
because that's a whole other topic for a whole other episode.
How we wean ourselves off looking at our dog,
even when we know they're solid.
By the way,
the answer to that one,
how do we do it?
Most of us don't.
Confession, it's a hard habit to break.
Anyway, so you're back to stage six.
We've got a dog who will let us go to dinner
without worrying.
We can go to the cinema where you definitely can't be
watching your camera all the time.
You might be able to go to a yoga class again,
no cameras.
You might even be able to go on a date with
your partner.
So we're not talking about super,
super long durations,
but we are talking about really reliable durations.
Ones that you can absolutely know your dog is going to
nail. Also,
why some owners get to stage six and say,
I'm good with that is by the time you get to
stage six,
many of you got so good at managing absences that you,
you don't need your dog to be alone all day while
you're at work.
So for many people,
stage six is good enough.
You've got your life back.
You can do things with more freedom and you might need
to still get a pet sitter up for longer absences.
If you go into a wedding or you've got a big
event on,
but for a lot of people,
stage six says,
yes. So I'm tasting freedom again.
But back to stage seven,
again, this is where most people think that when you get
to stage seven,
your dog has been cured of separation anxiety.
And I'm going to put cure in inverted commas in air
quotes, because the thing is,
with separation anxiety dogs,
they don't really ever get cured of separation anxiety.
And it's just like humans with PTSD or humans with bipolar
disorder. There's no cure.
There's no cure for separation anxiety.
What happens with all of those conditions is that treatment leads
to what we call symptom-free recovery.
So you're not witnessing and experiencing the symptoms that were causing
the problems previously.
Okay. So now before you feel totally deflated about the fact
that I've just said,
you are not going to be able to cure your dog
who have separation anxiety.
Just know that once you get to stages six or seven,
you will not be worrying about whether your dog is cured
and debating the finer details of whether it's cured or symptom
free recovery.
You will not be worrying about that.
You will be happily getting back to normal life with a
dog who can be predictably uncomfortably left.
You will not care whether that means cured or not.
And that brings me on to another point because I find
that when owners focus on progress in this new way,
they do worry less about putting a deadline on recovery.
I see this,
over and over.
Instead of how long will it take me,
they ask,
how will I do it?
And that's a massive mind shift and it's hugely empowering and
motivating. And that's what we focus on in our heroes club.
We focus on how you're going to do it ?
and how long?
You know,
the thing that we cannot control for is the dog's brain,
the dog in front of us,
we just don't know.
So there is no set time for moving from stage one
to seven.
We do not know.
What we do know though about how we can affect the
time it will take is that what you do as an
owner is the most significant thing.
Aside from the dog's brain,
which we can can't necessarily do anything about except we can
use meds.
But the thing that you can do,
the thing that makes most difference to a dog's recovery,
to a dog getting to symptom free recovery is what you
do. And when we have milestones,
there aren't times on a clock,
but much more about getting our life back.
And to give you an example,
so in our heroes club,
we celebrate things like owners who can now go out to
the car and get something they forgot from the car.
Like when that happens and when somebody posts a picture of
that, we all celebrate.
Or somebody today talked about being able to go for a
coffee, actually sit and have a coffee.
And we celebrated that.
We celebrate the things that show we're making progress,
and we kind of don't care what that means on the
stopwatch. Why?
Because it's much more motivating.
You'll feel way better when you get those rewards than you're
just going Oh,
it's 20 minutes.
And that's why as a group,
we celebrate milestones in the way that we do.
Now, if you want to experience what it's like to work
through training alongside others,
to celebrate when somebody just managed to go to the cinema
for the first time or celebrate when somebody managed to take
the rubbish or the trash out for the first time.
Then the doors to the separation anxiety heroes club,
they're closed at the moment,
but they open again on September the 30th.
And you can join the wait list by going to the
link in the show notes.
But if you can't wait for that,
you can always join my free Facebook group and get support
there. But whatever you do,
don't do this training thing on your own.
It is way too hard and you do need people around
you. Okay?
That's it for me for this week.
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