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Welcome to another episode of the fixing separation anxiety podcast.

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Welcome to the fixing separation anxiety podcast,

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where it's all about healing your dog,

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regaining your freedom and getting your life back on track.

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And now here's your host Julie Naismith.

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This week's topic is why is your dog happy alone in

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the car when he freaks out?

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When you leave him at home?

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Now I know this isn't all dogs.

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I know that a lot of you who have dogs who

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are anxious at home alone,

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that your dogs are also panicking in the car,

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but it's surprising how many dogs who can't be left at

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home alone,

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as they do really well when you leave them in the

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car. And I was reminded of this question of why is

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my dog,

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okay when he's alone in the car?

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I was reminded of this question this week,

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when working with a new client who was explaining to me

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that she found it really strange that her dog was okay

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when she left him to go to the bank or to

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get the groceries.

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But as soon as she thought about,

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so she left him in the car when she's doing those

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things. But as soon as she thought about leaving him home,

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he just lost it.

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Now, the problem with dogs,

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well, there are no problems with dogs really,

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are there?

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Dogs are perfect for the most part,

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there are some things about dogs we wish we could change.

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And one of the things that lots of us as owners

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find challenging is we can't go into their head and ask

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them exactly what's going on.

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And with dogs,

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actually, with any being,

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whether it's humans or another animal,

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we really like to know why does that happen?

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So with a dog,

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we want to know why does my dog do that?

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Why does my dog bark men with beards but he's fine

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with men without beards.

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Why does my dog only play with cattle dogs?

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Why does my dog not like small dogs?

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We're always asking,

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aren't we?

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Why does mine?

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And the hard part of that is that very often,

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we just don't know why.

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There isn't an answer.

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I don't know why your dog likes cattle dogs and he

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doesn't like labs.

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I don't know.

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We could guess maybe he's just had more fun playmates who

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were cattle dogs.

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And he's always found labs to be a little bit slow

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and boring for him,

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but we just don't know.

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The great news is though with most behavior issues,

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separation anxiety,

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stranger aggression,

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whatever, we don't actually need to know why the dogs have

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a problem before we can work on it.

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So as much as it's challenging for us as humans not

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to get an answer to our why questions,

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we love our why questions,

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don't we?

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As much as it can really perplexes that we can't get

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answers, it doesn't always matter.

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However, let's get back to this question of why your dog

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does okay in the car.

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So let me just say,

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there is no concrete research on this.

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At least nothing that I found.

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So if anybody listening finds any research or has any research

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about why some dogs do well in the car,

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email me or post on my Facebook page or Facebook group

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or the links are in the show notes,

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because I'd love to know.

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So what I'm going to tell you,

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what I'm going to talk to you about now are my

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hypotheses, my ideas on why I think some dogs you find

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in the car when they get upset at home.

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And how have I come up with these?

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Well, really just by looking at dog after dog,

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after dog and using my knowledge of applied behavior analysis,

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using mind stunning learning theory and analyzing the situation and saying,

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knowing what we know about how dogs behave,

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what they get rewarded for,

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what they find punishing.

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Here's what I think could be going on.

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Okay. So it's a hypothesis.

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It's just ideas,

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but I'd love to share them with you,

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especially because I know that lots of you are wondering what

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on earth is going on too.

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before I get into my two little hypotheses that I'm going

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I must tell you about my dog,

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Percy, who was one of those dogs who was fine in

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a car.

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fine in the car,

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but hate being left home alone.

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fine the car when it was parked,

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but not when it was on the highway or the motorway.

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That freaked him out.

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He was,

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he was really upset.

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So he was really comfortable being in the car.

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He didn't like speed,

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but he was happy to be left in the car when

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we went and did our stuff,

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very, very strange.

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He was happy to be in the car in locations that

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he was comfortable with.

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he got very used to being in the car when we

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went and got our groceries.

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that confidence.

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Luckily he generalized that to all grocery store car parks,

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all supermarket car parks.

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didn't matter where we were,

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he'd be fine.

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However, it didn't translate to all car parks.

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in a car park.

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It would not carry over into,

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I'm finding car parks.

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They would just like no no,

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I'm not done this before.

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Not sure about that.

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So they are funny.

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They do like to keep us on our toes and they

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do keep us wondering,

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I don't know why he didn't like all car parks,

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but he liked supermarket car parks.

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maybe this is why he was okay with supermarkets.

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My first hypothesis then,

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okay, so I think what's going on.

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If I had to put my money on it,

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I would say that they are getting used to short absences

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just by the way that we leave them in the car.

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especially when you've got a puppy,

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you don't want to leave a puppy in the car for

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any length of time.

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Not just because we don't want it to be anxious,

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but frankly puppies can get up to a lot of stuff

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in the car.

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So we've got a puppy that we're trying to house train.

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length of time,

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especially not on crated.

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puppy, Tex was,

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there's a ton of stuff they can find to entertain them

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in the car.

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three, four years on,

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I still find Nina the cup holder where the little nibble

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or I look at the seatbelt clasp and I see where

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he's chewed it or the plastic in the trunk where he's

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scratched away,

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all these little reminders of the stuff he used to get

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thankfully doesn't anymore.

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a long time.

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But what we do do is we go and we come

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back, we go to the bank,

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we come back quickly.

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we come back,

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we're going,

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we're coming back.

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We're leaving them for sure.

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mostly safe,

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but definitely short.

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you've heard me talk about how separation anxiety training works by

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using gradual exposure to alone time,

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taking tiny steps,

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keeping them under threshold.

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Can you see what could be happening with the car situation?

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We're going to come back.

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We're repeating those absences over and over and over again,

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unwittingly, we're using the very same method that we would use

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for separation anxiety training.

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So from an early age or from if,

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if we didn't get them when they were younger,

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if we got them when they were older,

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but from the very early stages of us being their pet

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parent, we are showing them that we go and we come

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back. When we leave them in the car.

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No scary absences,

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no being left for four hours for longer than they can

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cope with.

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So maybe what's going on is we're taking the principles of

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separation anxiety training,

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and without thinking,

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we're applying them to leaving them in the car.

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I really think that that's a strong contender for what could

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Number two,

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it could also be the in the car when they see

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you go,

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they can see for quite some distance so they can see

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you leave a carpark or turn a corner.

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They may see you go into the bank.

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seeing their own leaf can actually make things worse.

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number one,

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number one feels more persuasive to me,

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more probable,

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but for some dogs,

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it can be the case that seeing mum or dad come

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and go,

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can actually help them.

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when it works out with a client dog,

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but that's helpful,

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then we encourage the dog to look out the window.

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If it's helping the training or the dogs,

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Nope, seems to be making them worse.

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Let's close the blinds,

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let's block access.

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So it might help in the car context that they can

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see you come and go and it might not.

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I'm less convinced about this one.

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I think more likely what's going on is that we've just

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got them used to being alone in the car for short,

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safe absences.

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Very recently I taught a puppy program.

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So this was a program for owners have dogs,

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puppies who either had separation anxiety.

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Yes, puppies do get separation anxiety or where the owners were

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concerned that their dogs were developing or could develop separation anxiety.

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So I took them through a program which showed how to

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train their puppies to be happy home alone.

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And here's the thing,folks,

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dogs don't naturally like,

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or know how to be on their own.

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So if we get a new puppy in the home from

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a very early age,

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the quicker we can teach them that being home alone is

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normal and natural.

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the better.

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Some puppies will rattle through that training.

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You'll go and fix that.

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a couple of days a week,

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whatever, there'll be fine on their own.

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The anxious puppies will take longer,

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but why this is relevant to what's going on in the

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car is that stuff we do in the car where we

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go and come back.

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I'd love all of you with new dogs or new puppies

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to do that kind of training.

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do not assume your dog is going to be okay,

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assume that they're not do the trainings and gradually getting them

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being happy at home alone.

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you will fly through the training.

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you'll be doing the right thing and not creating a much

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worse condition.

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all the things we do instinctively in the car,

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think about doing those with any new dog in the home

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as well.

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Okay. The third possibility then,

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my third hypothesis is actually none of the above.

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Like I said at the start,

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sometimes the answer with dogs is that we just don't know.

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Nobody knows you can't ask them.

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They can't tell us all the time.

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And as frustrating as we might find it,

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we just have to take that.

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And if your dog is one of those,

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that's okay in the car,

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you just might never know why,

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but what's important here,

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is you've got a dog who is okay in the car.

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Is he shown you that he can be okay on his

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own. And that means with the right training and with perseverance

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and patience,

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you can teach him that he could be okay on his

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own in the house.

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So take it as a real positive.

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Also, take advantage of it,

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depending on your climate and of course I would never recommend

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you leave a dog in the car if it's over I

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would say even over 15 degrees,

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see, I'm a bit paranoid.

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I know some people would leave dogs in temperatures higher than

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that, but I would,

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you know,

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I would never want to leave a dog in if the

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temperature meant I didn't have to have a coat on equally.

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I live in Canada,

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so it can be rigid sometimes.

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so I'm not going to leave a dog in that.

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would I feel comfortable sitting in that car with no air

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and with it heating up,

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then there's no way I didn't think about it from my

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dogs. And actually I'd be cautious of the fact that dogs

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feel heat more than we do.

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So be really,

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really, really cautious about this one and be sensible.

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I know though,

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I don't need to tell that to you guys cause you

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wouldn't be listening to this podcast if you weren't dedicated,

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savvy, concerned owners.

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Anyway, just need to get that out there.

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Don't leave them when it's too hot or too cold.

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However, if you can leave them,

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if the weather is on your side,

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take advantage of it.

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Use it as another strategy for management.

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If you can take them with you when you get weekly

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shopping, do it.

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If it means you can go and grab a coffee with

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a friend,

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do it.

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We need all of the help we can get with a

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separation anxiety dog.

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If it works out,

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you've got yourself another option for managing absences.

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Know how precious that is.

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Oh, okay.

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I have loved talking to you about why dogs are happy

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in the car.

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Do share with me your thoughts,

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your experiences.

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I've posted links to my group and to my page in

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the show notes.

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Tell me how your dog gets on in the car and

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share with me your insights onto as to why you think

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that is.

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Thanks for listening.

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